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[Discussion] [Bug Report] New Noble Merchant Charm is BUGGED in TPC

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#31
Posted on 2018-08-28 15:14:05 | Show thread starter's posts only

As noted in my previous reply, It appears the Royal Charm is NOT bugged. I have ran several tests to make sure the data was accurate. 

1- Royal
1-Magnate - tested and ran at both same load and significantly higher load capacity
1- No Charm

In all tests ran the Royal received far more TPC and when the same load capacity far more silver than the others. 

I hope this helped

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#32
Posted on 2018-08-29 12:32:01 | Show thread starter's posts only

Thanks Fierygin...

guess Ill be getting the Royal as soon as I can save up 4 mil TPC...
(insert irony here)

- Ele

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#33
Posted on 2018-08-29 15:37:33 | Show thread starter's posts only

Mix of players broke the games small brain as it can't compute when everyone is not in same charm multiplier and gets drunk instead.

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#34
Posted on 2018-08-31 12:54:05 | Show thread starter's posts only

Here's a new set of data.

DSofa
Magnate Charm
Nightmare1
Royal Merchant
Seschmet
No charm
1Terrorzicke1
No charm
Tulip15,508 TPC
3,276,460 SC
3,276,460 SC
11,660 TPC
3,664,070 SC
3,186,148 SC
9,524 TPC
3,138,236 SC
13,305 TPC
3,006,796 SC
Emerald23,070 TPC
3,167,488 SC
3,167,488 SC
17,347 TPC
3,542,367 SC
3,080,320 SC
14,169 TPC
3,051,264 SC
19,794 TPC
3,080,320 SC
Silk Fabric10,340 TPC
2,262,729 SC
2,262,729 SC
7,773 TPC
2,530,523 SC
2,200,455 SC
6,350 TPC
2,179,590 SC
8,871 TPC
2,200,455 SC
King Salmon35,164 TPC
2,194,100 SC
2,194,100 SC
26,442 TPC
2,453,773 SC
2,133,716 SC
21,597 TPC
2,115,512 SC
30,170 TPC
2,133,716 SC
Leather12,087 TPC
2,267,328 SC
2,267,328 SC
9,088 TPC
2,535,645 SC
2,204,909 SC
7,424 TPC
2,184,183 SC
10,371 TPC
2,204,909 SC


So according to these results there are two conclusions, each equally possible.
1. Royal and Noble Merchant charms are not working as intended.
2. Nightmare1's char is bugged, hes not receiving as many cards as he should be.

We went trough everything from skill levels, to reputation, to professions and our chars are almost identical. Why is he receiving so few cards? Anyone has any theories?

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#35
Posted on 2018-09-01 04:09:36 | Show thread starter's posts only

if you want to test ,all char without charm ,then make sure they will get same TPC while they get same coins.

or it's char problem ,not charm problem

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#36
Posted on 2018-09-11 13:42:26 | Show thread starter's posts only

Another test in progress, same methodology but no charms this time.


DSofa
No charm
Nightmare1
No charm
Seschmet
No charm
1Terrorzicke1
No charm
Vodka13,346 TPC
1,548,120 SC
(50 amity)
8,997 TPC
1,595,560 SC
(50 amity)
10,656 TPC
1,482,880 SC
(44 amity)
15,730 TPC
1,420,720 SC
(0 amity)
Handicraft6,390 TPC
1,608,114 SC
4,308 TPC
1,563,996 SC
5,101 TPC
1,549,032 SC
7,531 TPC
1,563,996 SC
Picea16,773 TPC
2,618,074
11,307 TPC
2,546,030 SC
13,392 TPC
2,522,036
19,768 TPC
2,546,030 SC
Mirror7,495 TPC
1,774,326 SC
5,053 TPC
1,725,510 SC
5,984 TPC
1,709,238 SC
8,834 TPC
1,725,510 SC
Reindeer Antlers15,090 TPC
2,369,826 SC
(50 amity)
10,172 TPC
2,304,602 SC
(50 amity)
12,048 TPC
2,272,176 SC
(45 amity)
17,785 TPC
2,148,424 SC
(0 amity)



Okay, it seems that its not the charms fault. It seems to be the characters fault. We have no idea where these huge discrepancies in the amount of gained TPC's come from. We all sold the same amount of goods, we all had relatively the same amount of amity.

Comparison of our chars:
DSofaNightmare1Seschment1Terrorizcke1
ProfessionCarribbean Pirate
Level 170
Treasure Hunter
Level 170
Treasure Hunter
Level 160
Treasure Hunter
Level 152
Reputation1,174,4484,853,5861,144,7591,266,651
Total skill level204016911421818
Eloquence level120120120120
Eloquence skillsPurchasing 12
Vendition 10
Negotiation 9
Purchasing 12
Vendition 12
Negotiation 6
Purchasing 12
Vendition 12
Negotiation 5
Purchase 12
Vendition 12
Negotiation 6
Guild vigor125,94412,87812,87812,878
Personal vigor1,53611,357800



Any ideas whats causing these discrepancies? Any ideas what else might have an effect on TPC gain?

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#37
Posted on 2018-09-13 11:04:25 | Show thread starter's posts only

FoK what you think about this result? since you asked for that test :)

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#38
Posted on 2018-09-13 14:07:33 | Show thread starter's posts only

Sorry should probably comment in the thread above where i asked about guild vigor .. but after 5 comments the comments get buried.


I mistakenly asked about guild vigor....

it is actually Personal vigor that affected MY daily trade task turn in.
(characters are in same guild so guild vigor is the same)

I noticed my amounts changed at 1,000...5,000.... and I think 10,000 - personal vigor



Ignoring Dsofa's character for the moment and looking at the other 3... it looks like the TPC amount is getting less as the Personal vigor got higher. (with constant/ same Guild vigor)

But Dsofa'c character has such high Guild Vigor.... perhaps that number is also being included in the calculation and throws the comparison off?

I do not know how to really test that, other than have  a pool of many many characters; some with same guild vigor, some with same personal vigor, some not matching at all... and no way anyone is going to spend more time on it...

I guess its just an item we have to warn players not to buy.... or buy only when they can immediately afford the next upgrade.

- Ele

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#39
Posted on 2018-09-14 04:37:53 | Show thread starter's posts only

If u make another test leaving guild with all char can exclude guild/vigor related things, but i dont think its the reason, cause the 0 personal vigor char get the most TPC.
I really dont know how system calculate TPC, but is it possible that maybe max load, or SSP or somehing like that affect it? I mean maybe the system has an expectation on how fast should deliver the goods, depending on chars SSP for example. So if u sail in caravan/fleet that means lower SSP chars get more TPC, cause it delivere it faster, and probably Flamewars has a lot SSP, and he obviously delivered it slower than should be.
I dont think it has sense what i said, but its really so weird, im so curious why is this, as i not believe in curse... :D:D

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#40
Posted on 2018-09-14 08:35:24 | Show thread starter's posts only

Maybe the amount of finished Merchant Alliance tasks have an effect?
Maybe purchasing those eloquence titles at skill tutor have an effect?

That would be very interesting.

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