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#1
Posted on 2018-04-05 18:30:56 | Show thread starter's posts only

Hey guys and gals.
Since there are plenty of self proclaimed geniuses here, I present you this challenge. Lets try to get away from the constant flaming and lets try to have fun trying to solve a problem.

I'm working on a sea battle points calculator here: http://yourpiratescove.com/sea-battle-points-calculator
What's the problem? Basically the calculator doesn't calculate the points correctly. It works for some chars, for others its very off. I can't figure out why. I need more data.



Here's the data the calculator is based on. This is how much points each of these stats give. In my tests, other sea battle stats didn't give any points.
shipLevel : 2000, // Ship level, unless level 1, in that case, it gives 1800 points
maneuverabilityLevel : 100, // Ship Maneuverability level
militaryLevel : 100, // Ship Military Equipment level
structureLevel : 100, // Ship Structure level
hullDurability : 0.1, // Hull Durability
sailDurability : 0.1, // Sail Durability
sailorAmount : 10, // Sailor Amount
loadingCapacity : 2, // Loading Capacity
ssp : 60, // Square Sail Propulsion
fsp : 100, // Fore-and-Aft Propulsion
op : 200, // Oar Propulsion
turningSpeed : 400, // Turning Speed
cannonAmount : 50, // Cannon Amount
rammingForce : 100, // Ramming Force
cannonHitRate : 200, // Cannon Hit Rate
shipDodgeRate : 200, // Ship Dodge Rate
cannonAttackRating : 200, // Cannon Attack Rating
cannonDefense : 200, // Cannon Defense



These are my tests:
Level 10 bs - exact result
Level 10 merch - exact result
Level 11 bs - 385 points difference
Level 11 adv - exact result
Level 12 adv - exact result
Level 12 merch - exact result
Level 13 adv - exact result on 3 different chars
Level 14 adv Darwin - exact result
Level 14 adv 7-seas - 432 points difference
Level 15 adv - 50 points difference on one char, 62 points difference on a different char
Level 15 bs - 92 points difference



Feel free to post your results here. Relog in game, don't change any equipment, check your ocean overlord points, write them down, then enter all of your stats into calculator and compare to the actual points shown in game. Make sure you use maximum amount of hull, sails and sailors when calculating, not your current ones. Also make sure you use the correct amount of square sail or fore and aft power. They are shown as a number without decimals in the stats interface, but trough FH upgrade, you can actually get like 0.4 fore and aft, so your actual fore and aft could be 50.40, even though its only shown as 50. Make sure you hover over the each stat to get the correct value.

So if you get the result, post it here. Not the stats itself, just the points in game and calculated ones, for comparison. Also state some info about your ships (level, retrofits, etc.)

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#2
Posted on 2018-04-06 09:47:08 | Show thread starter's posts only

well dsofa that tool is great but you need to know the overlord sb is outdated there lots  of stuff missing in our current, like sailor dmg,  and sailor def, in chinese server the point you get from those are even high er than cannon acc, and dodge, is almost like 500 points for each 0.01 you add to your sailor dmg and sailor def,  i did use you tool and didn't calculate cannon  def of mine and sb point compared to mine was just 67 points of difference seem our sb overlord don't calculated  cannon def at all since is not added in the stats listed,  taking in consideration not adding the extra turning degree from rank...

So your tool work precisely.


i can confirm what im saying by changing one item in to cannon def and log off and you lose 4k point instead only losing 2.5k point if you change cannon dodge or acc into cannon def.

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#3
Posted on 2018-04-06 14:35:37 | Show thread starter's posts only

But still makes no sense. If cannon def didn't give any points, you wouldn't be off by 67 points, you would be off by 200 times the amount of cannon def you have, which is way above 67.

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#4
Posted on 2018-04-09 21:00:26 | Show thread starter's posts only

Since I originally posted this, we had a couple of breakthroughs. We got it to almost 100% accuracy.
The calculator is still off by 1 to 2 points in certain cases.

I've posted my research here:

http://yourpiratescove.com/relationship-between-sea-stats-and-points

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#5
Posted on 2018-04-10 06:27:00 | Show thread starter's posts only

for me its way off, i have a difference of 29.199 points

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#6
Posted on 2018-04-10 07:14:08 | Show thread starter's posts only

I doubt its that off. You are doing something wrong most likely.

Few things to pay attention to:
1. Use maximum amount of hull, sails and sailors, not the current one.
2. Some stats like SSP, FSP and Turning speed are decimal numbers, so don't forget the decimals.
3. You can have an odd number of cannons due to odd number on retrofit, but the game will round it down to the nearest even number. The extra cannon you cannot use and it won't appear anywhere, but it still will count towards your total amount of points.

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#7
Posted on 2018-04-10 07:28:44 | Show thread starter's posts only

Ah sorry, that was my bad. I just realized I didn't remove cannon defense from the equation. As LUIJO demonstrated, cannon defense doesn't give any points.

Could you recalculate it again please?

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#8
Posted on 2018-04-11 00:35:46 | Show thread starter's posts only

Nice Job

I tried it and woked fine... at start I got 130 less points at the calculator but then added 0.5 stats on 2 of the 3 the speed ones and matched exactly

Used this




Here is result




Seems you broke the code... Congratz

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#9
Posted on 2018-04-11 02:40:07 | Show thread starter's posts only

yeap works fine now

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#10
Posted on 2018-04-11 09:49:16 | Show thread starter's posts only

Great. Thank you for feedback guys, helps alot.

Now there's still a small issue left. In case someone has an odd number of cannons, the calculator is off by one or two points. I posted two examples in the research thread. I have no idea why. I think I need more data, so if someone has odd number of cannons, please post your stats and points.

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